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	'''Speed Upgrade'''		'''Speed Upgrade'''

	~~No matter what, a~~ Grenadier ~~NEEDS~~ speed upgrade if he has any intention of fighting tanks. You can utilise cover, buildings, walls and mines to be a highly effective grenadier, but that's not always possible, and sometimes you get put in the worst possible scenario, open ground fighting against an enemy tank. That's where speed upgrade comes in, the extra boost of speed will give you the edge you need to avoid both the enemy tanks fire, and the enemy tanks treads. Avoiding getting killed by the tank might just give you the opportunity to weaken the tank to the point where it flees, or if you're lucky, you can get an RPG exactly where the enemy driver doesn't want it and earn yourself two points. Speed upgrade also lets you move faster to the front lines and secure ground early, even though you're not brilliant against infantry that extra speed can make the difference. Speed upgrade and armor detection are good in combination, and against certain chassis you can angle mortars to land on the opposite side of a tank to you.		A Grenadier should prioritize speed upgrade if he has any intention of fighting tanks. You can utilise cover, buildings, walls and mines to be a highly effective grenadier, but that's not always possible, and sometimes you get put in the worst possible scenario, open ground fighting against an enemy tank. That's where speed upgrade comes in, the extra boost of speed will give you the edge you need to avoid both the enemy tanks fire, and the enemy tanks treads. Avoiding getting killed by the tank might just give you the opportunity to weaken the tank to the point where it flees, or if you're lucky, you can get an RPG exactly where the enemy driver doesn't want it and earn yourself two points. Speed upgrade also lets you move faster to the front lines and secure ground early, even though you're not brilliant against infantry that extra speed can make the difference. Speed upgrade and armor detection are good in combination, and against certain chassis you can angle mortars to land on the opposite side of a tank to you.
	~~The most effective gren is the one out the front dancing with the enemy tank,~~ the closer you are to a tank, the harder it is for them to hit you!		Remember: the closer you are to a tank, the harder it is for them to hit you!

	'''Essential Skill: Ammo Upgrade''': Whether you're a lone grenadier attempting to demolish some buildings or you don't have enough time to refill on rockets before the next tank approaches, more ammo is always useful. This is especially true when employing mines. Ammo Upgrade is particularly useful as it gives the grenadier the ability to execute the devastating 9th mine technique. This versatile ability is particularly useful in assassinating the command vehicle, and for this reason the grenadier is the most powerful ninja class.		'''Essential Skill: Ammo Upgrade''': Whether you're a lone grenadier attempting to demolish some buildings or you don't have enough time to refill on rockets before the next tank approaches, more ammo is always useful. This is especially true when employing mines. Ammo Upgrade is particularly useful as it gives the grenadier the ability to execute the devastating 9th mine technique. This versatile ability is particularly useful in assassinating the command vehicle, and for this reason the grenadier is the most powerful ninja class.
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	All the Grenadier skills are useful depending on mode of transportation: When using a vehicle, '''Defusal''' is essential. Nothing upsets enemy defences more than a vehicle rolling straight through that mine-field to rain down destruction upon them. '''Artillery Feedback''' is also essential for effective indirect fire, whether it be with the mortar or the [[Artillery\|artillery tank]].		All the Grenadier skills are useful depending on mode of transportation: When using a vehicle, '''Defusal''' is essential. Nothing upsets enemy defences more than a vehicle rolling straight through that mine-field to rain down destruction upon them. '''Artillery Feedback''' is also essential for effective indirect fire, whether it be with the mortar or the [[Artillery\|artillery tank]].

	These skills are not quite as useful if you don't intend to use a vehicle, though '''Artillery Feedback''' still applies to the Mortar. Obviously, the same applies to '''Increased Armor'''. One should also note, however, that on certain maps in certain cases, such as in flag cap maps, (such as BE on escort, or cdr_canyon, or Glycen city) you should NOT waste a skill slot on '''defusal'''. When you have limitless tickets, it's much faster and easier to just have someone blow themselves up on the enemy mines and have an engineer revive that person. A dedicated team like this can clear an area faster then a grenadier by an entire order of magnitude. Just make sure the reviver stays away from the blast radius!		These skills are not quite as useful if you don't intend to use a vehicle, though '''Artillery Feedback''' still applies to the Mortar. Obviously, the same applies to '''Increased Armor'''.

	== Related Links ==		== Related Links ==

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			{{Sitenav\|Grenadier}}
	== Overview ==		== Overview ==
	[[Image:NFGren.JPG\|thumb\|right\|Northern Faction Grenadier]]		[[Image:NFGren.JPG\|thumb\|right\|Northern Faction Grenadier]]

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	~~{{Sitenav\|Grenadier}}~~
	== Overview ==		== Overview ==
	[[Image:NFGren.JPG\|thumb\|right\|Northern Faction Grenadier]]		[[Image:NFGren.JPG\|thumb\|right\|Northern Faction Grenadier]]

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	These skills are not quite as useful if you don't intend to use a vehicle, though '''Artillery Feedback''' still applies to the Mortar. Obviously, the same applies to '''Increased Armor'''. One should also note, however, that on certain maps in certain cases, such as in flag cap maps, (such as BE on escort, or cdr_canyon, or Glycen city) you should NOT waste a skill slot on '''defusal'''. When you have limitless tickets, it's much faster and easier to just have someone blow themselves up on the enemy mines and have an engineer revive that person. A dedicated team like this can clear an area faster then a grenadier by an entire order of magnitude. Just make sure the reviver stays away from the blast radius!		These skills are not quite as useful if you don't intend to use a vehicle, though '''Artillery Feedback''' still applies to the Mortar. Obviously, the same applies to '''Increased Armor'''. One should also note, however, that on certain maps in certain cases, such as in flag cap maps, (such as BE on escort, or cdr_canyon, or Glycen city) you should NOT waste a skill slot on '''defusal'''. When you have limitless tickets, it's much faster and easier to just have someone blow themselves up on the enemy mines and have an engineer revive that person. A dedicated team like this can clear an area faster then a grenadier by an entire order of magnitude. Just make sure the reviver stays away from the blast radius!

			== Related Links ==
			* https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/gameplay-grenadier-class-tips-guide.20871/

	[[Category:Classes\|Grenadier]]		[[Category:Classes\|Grenadier]]

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	The RPG launcher converts into a Mortar for those times when a straight rocket just won't cut it. To use the mortar just crouch and let the shells fly. Secondary fire on the Mortar is useful when a [[Scout\|Scout]] has called for artillery. Pressing it will bring up the map and paint diamonds over the scout's artillery target. You can select the target, and it will show up on your screen. Also, if you do not have the Artillery Feedback skill, you will still get feedback on your mortar strike if it hits near the selected target.		The RPG launcher converts into a Mortar for those times when a straight rocket just won't cut it. To use the mortar just crouch and let the shells fly. Secondary fire on the Mortar is useful when a [[Scout\|Scout]] has called for artillery. Pressing it will bring up the map and paint diamonds over the scout's artillery target. You can select the target, and it will show up on your screen. Also, if you do not have the Artillery Feedback skill, you will still get feedback on your mortar strike if it hits near the selected target.

	Finally, the grenadier can lay mines, up to a maximum of 8, for defense. The Mines are both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle, which means that they will explode when either an enemy vehicle or an enemy player drives or walks over them~~. What's more? Dropping the nineth mine will cause the first mine to go off, this might serve as a good defensive purpose~~.		Finally, the grenadier can lay mines, up to a maximum of 8, for defense. The Mines are both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle, which means that they will explode when either an enemy vehicle or an enemy player drives or walks over them.

	With the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Mine Defusal Skill]], Grenadiers do not set off mines, neither when walking nor driving over them. They can also defuse mines with this skill by crouching on the mine, aiming, and pressing the USE key ('''E''' by default) for a few seconds. This makes the class extremely useful for detecting, crossing and clearing minefields. But be careful, your teammate might not have the defusal skill, which means they can still trigger enemy mines and endanger nearby teammates.		With the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Mine Defusal Skill]], Grenadiers do not set off mines, neither when walking nor driving over them. They can also defuse mines with this skill by crouching on the mine, aiming, and pressing the USE key ('''E''' by default) for a few seconds. This makes the class extremely useful for detecting, crossing and clearing minefields. But be careful, your teammate might not have the defusal skill, which means they can still trigger enemy mines and endanger nearby teammates.

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	One of the most useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] of the grenadier is Artillery Feedback, granting the class superiority in that area of combat. The skill works by indicating, with a diamond on the minimap, the area in which the player's last shell or missile exploded. The skill applies not only to artillery cannons and the class' mortar weapon, but also to the handheld RPG and any vehicle mounted cannon or missile launcher.		One of the most useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] of the grenadier is Artillery Feedback, granting the class superiority in that area of combat. The skill works by indicating, with a diamond on the minimap, the area in which the player's last shell or missile exploded. The skill applies not only to artillery cannons and the class' mortar weapon, but also to the handheld RPG and any vehicle mounted cannon or missile launcher.

	Another useful[[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] is Armor Detection, which empowers the grenadier to see the state of armor and hull of the targeted vehicle. This is especially useful when an enemy's armor has been destroyed on one side but has turned so that an undamaged side faces your team.		Another useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] is Armor Detection, which empowers the grenadier to see the state of armor and hull of the targeted vehicle. This is especially useful when an enemy's armor has been destroyed on one side but has turned so that an undamaged side faces your team.

	On the defensive a grenadier is most at home in a [[Vehicles\|vehicle]], increasing its resilience with the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] Increased Armor. This skill increases the amount of armor on a driven [[Vehicles\|vehicle]] by 10%, letting a skilled grenadier remain on the battlefield long after others have been reduced to scrap.		On the defensive a grenadier is most at home in a [[Vehicles\|vehicle]], increasing its resilience with the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] Increased Armor. This skill increases the amount of armor on a driven [[Vehicles\|vehicle]] by 10%, letting a skilled grenadier remain on the battlefield long after others have been reduced to scrap.

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	[[Image:BE grenadier.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Brenodi Empire Grenadier]]		[[Image:BE grenadier.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Brenodi Empire Grenadier]]

	When the going gets tough the tough call for anti-armor support, and thats exactly what the Grenadier delivers. In a direct fight, the class shows its teeth with a standard RPG.		When the going gets tough the tough call for anti-armor support, and thats exactly what the Grenadier delivers. In a direct fight, the class shows its teeth with a standard RPG and Mortar.

	The RPG has a dual firing system: Guided and Dumbfire. The missile will track its target if you keep the reticle on the target for as long as the "fire" key is pressed. When you release the "fire" key or move the reticle off the target, the missle is switched to a dumbfire mode and will continue on its last direction. To fire a missile in a dumbfire mode, simply press and quickly release the "fire" key. The missile is then launched in a straight trajectory and the RPG will auto-reload right away.		The RPG has a dual firing system: Guided and Dumbfire. The missile will track its target if you keep the reticle on the target for as long as the "fire" key is pressed. When you release the "fire" key or move the reticle off the target, the missle is switched to a dumbfire mode and will continue on its last direction. To fire a missile in a dumbfire mode, simply press and quickly release the "fire" key. The missile is then launched in a straight trajectory and the RPG will auto-reload right away.
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	The RPG launcher converts into a Mortar for those times when a straight rocket just won't cut it. To use the mortar just crouch and let the shells fly. Secondary fire on the Mortar is useful when a [[Scout\|Scout]] has called for artillery. Pressing it will bring up the map and paint diamonds over the scout's artillery target. You can select the target, and it will show up on your screen. Also, if you do not have the Artillery Feedback skill, you will still get feedback on your mortar strike if it hits near the selected target.		The RPG launcher converts into a Mortar for those times when a straight rocket just won't cut it. To use the mortar just crouch and let the shells fly. Secondary fire on the Mortar is useful when a [[Scout\|Scout]] has called for artillery. Pressing it will bring up the map and paint diamonds over the scout's artillery target. You can select the target, and it will show up on your screen. Also, if you do not have the Artillery Feedback skill, you will still get feedback on your mortar strike if it hits near the selected target.

	Finally, the grenadier can lay mines, up to a maximum of 8, for defense. The Mines are both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle, which means that they will explode when either an enemy vehicle or an enemy player drives or walks over them.		Finally, the grenadier can lay mines, up to a maximum of 8, for defense. The Mines are both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle, which means that they will explode when either an enemy vehicle or an enemy player drives or walks over them. What's more? Dropping the nineth mine will cause the first mine to go off, this might serve as a good defensive purpose.

	With the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Mine Defusal Skill]], Grenadiers do not set off mines, neither when walking nor driving over them. They can also defuse mines with this skill by crouching on the mine, aiming, and pressing the USE key ('''E''' by default) for a few seconds. This makes the class extremely useful for detecting, crossing and clearing minefields.		With the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Mine Defusal Skill]], Grenadiers do not set off mines, neither when walking nor driving over them. They can also defuse mines with this skill by crouching on the mine, aiming, and pressing the USE key ('''E''' by default) for a few seconds. This makes the class extremely useful for detecting, crossing and clearing minefields. But be careful, your teammate might not have the defusal skill, which means they can still trigger enemy mines and endanger nearby teammates.

	~~Arguably~~ the most useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] of the grenadier is Artillery Feedback, granting the class superiority in that area of combat. The skill works by indicating, with a diamond on the minimap, the area in which the player's last shell or missile exploded. The skill applies not only to artillery cannons and the class' mortar weapon, but also to the handheld RPG and any vehicle mounted cannon or missile launcher.		One of the most useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] of the grenadier is Artillery Feedback, granting the class superiority in that area of combat. The skill works by indicating, with a diamond on the minimap, the area in which the player's last shell or missile exploded. The skill applies not only to artillery cannons and the class' mortar weapon, but also to the handheld RPG and any vehicle mounted cannon or missile launcher.

	~~A tactical~~ [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] is Armor Detection, which ~~lets~~ the grenadier see the ~~percentage~~ of armor on the targeted ~~side of a~~ vehicle. This is especially useful when an enemy's armor has been destroyed on one side but has turned so that an undamaged side faces your team.		Another useful[[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] is Armor Detection, which empowers the grenadier to see the state of armor and hull of the targeted vehicle. This is especially useful when an enemy's armor has been destroyed on one side but has turned so that an undamaged side faces your team.

	On the defensive a grenadier is most at home in a [[Vehicles\|vehicle]], increasing its resilience with the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] Increased Armor. This skill increases the amount of armor on a driven [[Vehicles\|vehicle]] by 10%, letting a skilled grenadier remain on the battlefield long after others have been reduced to scrap.		On the defensive a grenadier is most at home in a [[Vehicles\|vehicle]], increasing its resilience with the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] Increased Armor. This skill increases the amount of armor on a driven [[Vehicles\|vehicle]] by 10%, letting a skilled grenadier remain on the battlefield long after others have been reduced to scrap.

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	* If a Grenadier manages to lay down eight mines, placing a ninth will detonate the first one laid. If the mines are close they will detonate each other. Many people use this as a way to destroy/flip tanks that have a driver with defusal.		* If a Grenadier manages to lay down eight mines, placing a ninth will detonate the first one laid. If the mines are close they will detonate each other. Many people use this as a way to destroy/flip tanks that have a driver with defusal.
	* Starting in 2.2, The Grenadier's RPG will do only 1/120th damage to buildings. The RPG will still do full damage to turrets and tanks, however.		* Starting in 2.2, The Grenadier's RPG will do only 1/120th damage to buildings. The RPG will still do full damage to turrets and tanks, however.
			* Placing mines without moving you screen will put them in the exact same spot. People will be unable to detect whether there is one mine or eight in a clump, and can often net you kills from drivers who only expected to lose a little armor.

	== Upgrade Guide ==		== Upgrade Guide ==

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	* Grenadiers must load their RPG and Mortar after changing class at an [[Armory]] or [[Barracks]]. Don't forget to do this before going into combat, it could save your life.		* Grenadiers must load their RPG and Mortar after changing class at an [[Armory]] or [[Barracks]]. Don't forget to do this before going into combat, it could save your life.
	* If a Grenadier manages to lay down eight mines, placing a ninth will detonate the first one laid. If the mines are close they will detonate each other. Many people use this as a way to destroy/flip tanks that have a driver with defusal.		* If a Grenadier manages to lay down eight mines, placing a ninth will detonate the first one laid. If the mines are close they will detonate each other. Many people use this as a way to destroy/flip tanks that have a driver with defusal.
	* Starting in 2.2, The Grenadier's RPG will do only 1/120th damage to buildings. RPG will still do full damage to turrets and tanks, however.		* Starting in 2.2, The Grenadier's RPG will do only 1/120th damage to buildings. The RPG will still do full damage to turrets and tanks, however.

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	* When detonated, the mines set off other friendly mines that are caught in their initial blast radius. This is helpful for taking down buildings, vehicles and obstacles quickly with a single explosion resulting from mines placed by more than one Grenadier.		* When detonated, the mines set off other friendly mines that are caught in their initial blast radius. This is helpful for taking down buildings, vehicles and obstacles quickly with a single explosion resulting from mines placed by more than one Grenadier.
	* Grenadiers must load their RPG and Mortar after changing class at an [[Armory]] or [[Barracks]]. Don't forget to do this before going into combat, it could save your life.		* Grenadiers must load their RPG and Mortar after changing class at an [[Armory]] or [[Barracks]]. Don't forget to do this before going into combat, it could save your life.
	* ~~Starting with 2.2~~, ~~Grenadier "9th mine" trick has been removed. Placing~~ a ~~9th mine~~ will ~~simply make your~~ first ~~mine disappear~~.		* If a Grenadier manages to lay down eight mines, placing a ninth will detonate the first one laid. If the mines are close they will detonate each other. Many people use this as a way to destroy/flip tanks that have a driver with defusal.
	* ~~Also starting~~ in 2.2, The ~~grenadier~~'s RPG will do only 1/120th damage to buildings~~. Without the RPG upgrade, the damage rounds to 0~~. RPG will still do full damage to turrets and tanks, however.		* Starting in 2.2, The Grenadier's RPG will do only 1/120th damage to buildings. RPG will still do full damage to turrets and tanks, however.

	== Upgrade Guide ==		== Upgrade Guide ==

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	One of the most useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] of the grenadier is Artillery Feedback, granting the class superiority in that area of combat. The skill works by indicating, with a diamond on the minimap, the area in which the player's last shell or missile exploded. The skill applies not only to artillery cannons and the class' mortar weapon, but also to the handheld RPG and any vehicle mounted cannon or missile launcher.		One of the most useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] of the grenadier is Artillery Feedback, granting the class superiority in that area of combat. The skill works by indicating, with a diamond on the minimap, the area in which the player's last shell or missile exploded. The skill applies not only to artillery cannons and the class' mortar weapon, but also to the handheld RPG and any vehicle mounted cannon or missile launcher.

	Another useful[[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] is Armor Detection, which empowers the grenadier to see the state of armor and hull of the targeted vehicle. This is especially useful when an enemy's armor has been destroyed on one side but has turned so that an undamaged side faces your team.		Another useful [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] is Armor Detection, which empowers the grenadier to see the state of armor and hull of the targeted vehicle. This is especially useful when an enemy's armor has been destroyed on one side but has turned so that an undamaged side faces your team.

	On the defensive a grenadier is most at home in a [[Vehicles\|vehicle]], increasing its resilience with the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] Increased Armor. This skill increases the amount of armor on a driven [[Vehicles\|vehicle]] by 10%, letting a skilled grenadier remain on the battlefield long after others have been reduced to scrap.		On the defensive a grenadier is most at home in a [[Vehicles\|vehicle]], increasing its resilience with the [[Skills#Grenadier\|Skill]] Increased Armor. This skill increases the amount of armor on a driven [[Vehicles\|vehicle]] by 10%, letting a skilled grenadier remain on the battlefield long after others have been reduced to scrap.